Patchman's Reply

Here is one from another sheep that calls itself "Patchman"
Baaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaa badass acting sheep wannabe poser leather clad bondage clown.

Patchman came out of the closet just long enough to say:

Over the years I have heard the same crap from every dick weed that wants a Harley but can't afford one!

If you're 20 years old and into speed which you seem to think is what makes a motorcycle, then you should ride a rice rocket, after all that has to be a comfortable way to travel the country all bent over the gas tank like that.

I used to buy into all that crap you are trying to spread around to justify the fact that you don't ride a Harley but a cheap imitation from over sea's. Then I road a Harley and found out how great a longer and heavier bike felt and handled the road. I don't give a damn about some idiot that has the power and speed to be able to wrap himself around a tree or something else. I don't have the speed a rice burner might have but I do have the big time torque of a big V-twin where all I have to do in twist the throttle to roll on up the hill without having to grab gears all the time!

I also used to buy into the Harley not being dependable bullshit too, then I bought one and found out it was just as dependable as my old metric bikes were, in my years of riding it I have never had any problems with it, these all left over stories from the old days when AMF owned Harley. You might be able to buy 2 bikes for the price of one Harley but when you go to sell yours it isn't worth anything while the Harley is still worth as much and most of the time worth more!

I have nothing against rice burners as they make some great bikes, what I have a problem with is jerks like you that have such a hard on for Harley, if you were so damn happy without a HOG you would be out riding your bike instead of posting bullshit on the web about how much you hate Harleys hoping to justify to your friends that your bike is better than a Harley when you know it's NOT! You keep on preaching that bull and one of these days you might even start to believe yourself.

Get a life,

Patchman

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Over the years I have heard the same crap from every dick weed that wants a Harley but can't afford one!

Why is it that all Hardly, sorry, Harley riders ASSume that because someone doesn't like a Harley, that they are either jealous or can't afford one? And what is the fixation on terms that revolve around the male reproductive organ? Freud would have a field day with you anal bumpkins. A Harley, above anything else, is a penis replacement / extension. It's big, loud, shiny, expensive, and it is supposed to make you a stud if you ride one. Automatically. I guess it's just a Harley owner thing, which only goes to show more of the kind of uneducated sheep who actually buy into this media hype that Milwaukee is constantly trying to blow up our hineys.

I find that kind of logic both faulty and ludicrous.

The fact is, sir, that Harleys are total POS wastes of hard earned money. They are the world's greatest selling motorized leather and chrome slathered wheelchairs for rich brain dead trend humping fashion lemmings and total posers who would know a real motorcycle if someone turned them ass up and planted the front tire between their butt cheeks. Harleys are overpriced due to false image inflation thanks to a hyper spastic marketing presence. Some people in this world, those who have more brains than money, fully understand that and don't buy into the 'This is the greatest bike America can make' crap when they know that is an out and out boldface lie. Why is it so hard for you to understand that maybe, somewhere, out there, that there are motorcycle riders who want to buy their bikes from a company that doesn't make more money each year from selling officially licensed and endorsed cheap crap accessories rather than from actually selling motorcycles? I don't find it that hard to believe, I guess because I have a brain between my ears. They check my IQ with a battery of tests. Your IQ is probably checked by using either an air pressure gauge or a dipstick.

I have owned several bikes in my life, and the most comfortable were the ones that I felt the safest on, that being my 'crotch rockets' or 'sport bikes'. I enjoyed the leaned over approach to motorcycling, it was very relaxing, and the position gave me a better view of the road ahead, as well as the proper position from which to react to rapidly changing conditions. I can't understand how you can ride leaned back, with your knees at your waistline, your shoulders and back at a 45 degree angle, arms and legs spread wider than a teenage girl on her first visit to the OB-GYN, and you call that 'safe' or 'comfortable'? I beg to differ. I've ridden my bike all over my state, and into neighboring states, with no problems or discomfort. I fail to see your point being as how it is based on ergonomics. I base my decisions on many things, ergonomics is one aspect, speed, handling, maneuverability, and braking are the other criteria, followed by price and style. Harley leads the world only in price. In everything else, it is way behind.

I doubt that a Kawasaki ZX-6R Ninja is a 'cheap' imitation of a Harley, it is light years more advanced technology wise, costs half, lasts four times as long, and rides much better. And, from the factory, it is quieter and much more powerful. The 599cc motor makes upwards of twenty percent more power that your 'big' V-twin makes. A heavy bike? Sorry, I refuse to ride anything that I can't physically pick up after it has fallen over. The heavier a bike is, the harder it is to maneuver, to throw around on the highway at required speeds, and the longer it takes to brake. The more mass you have, the longer it takes to slow that mass down.

Elementary physics there.

I've seen more injuries from stupid Harley owners than I have from rice rocket owners. The fact is that a Harley is so big and unwieldy, that it is just a nightmare for anything other than a straight line. Harley owners wrap themselves around trees as well, Patch. I've seen it happen. It isn't something that is just confined to the 'crotch rocket' set or do you really think that because you ride a Harley that you are somehow protected from the fickle fate of physics? And as for twisting the throttle and grabbing gears all the time, I hardly ever got my Ninja out of 2nd or 3rd gear in town, and that equaled about three or four thousand RPM, barely a whisper from the pipes. It had plenty of low down torque for urban use, and on the highway, I never had to switch down a gear to climb a hill. I think you're thinking of dirt bikes here. I had enough power in 6th gear to climb any 'hill'. Sorry that the world doesn't work according to Patch's Physics. It would be a shitty place if it did.

The only reason a Harley is worth so much is because it is a media driven image based culture icon. It is a false idol that nimrods like yourself bow down and prostrate yourself before. Like I said, Harley Davidson makes more money per year from selling accessories (like HD Barbie, HD chaps, HD desktop clocks, HD cigarettes, etc.) than from actually selling any motorcycles. I bet if Harley Davidson stopped selling motorcycles, they would still exist as a company due to the corporate power of their commercialization and all the tacky crap that they have officially licensed and endorsed.

Harley as a company sucks so bad, that the government had to bail them out. California had to buy HD motorcycles for their highway patrol just to keep Harley alive. It is a company that is well beyond its time to die, it is only kept alive by the sheep of society and by fools with too much money and no brains. So, yes, your Harley will be worth more than my crotch rocket will, but only to another fool who will pay that price. As P.T. Barnum once said; "there's a sucker born every minute" and Harley, I'm afraid, depends on the validity of that quote to stay profitable.

A hard on for a Harley? Please. Patch, if you walked up to me and handed me your Harley and the keys and said it was mine free and clear, I would run it down the street and find a fool like you to sell it to at an exaggerated and ridiculous price and laugh all the way to the bank. You guys are such sheep, it's pathetic. Brainwashed sheep subscribing to an image and defending a gold painted turd.

Pathetic.

I can only use your quote here, as it applies so well to the ingrained media image that Harley has used to brain wash you;

"You keep on preaching that bull and one of these days you might even start to believe yourself."

Keep on preaching, Patchman. Milwaukee is counting on fools like you to keep their children in braces and college. Garbage in, garbage out. Maybe when Harley joins the rest of us in the 21st century, instead of running around trying to make bikes like they did in 1945, then I'll get some respect for the owners and the bikes. Until then, its all Fred Flintstone technology, 80 years or more behind the current times, and those who want to pay "new tech" prices for "old tech" quality really do have more money than common sense.

Get a life,

I've got one, thanks. And it is a very nice life free from being a accessory wearing brainwashed sheep on a Harley, thanks for the suggestion though. I'll stick with my life over yours. At least when I have a reputation, it's because I earned it, not because I went down to the HD dealer and bought it.

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